“I had the opportunity to do that a couple of times, whether it was on the cutting edge of things, so things that didn't necessarily exist and we were trying to create, Or it was, yeah, we need to encrypt our data, or we need to transmit our data encrypted, or we need to get our database encrypted, or we need to encrypt our file system.”

Transcript evidence from Hillel Solow -- How to do AppSec without a security team.